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 Post subject: Re: Commercial Broth/Stocks
PostPosted: Fri Feb 07, 2014 10:56 am 
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While I've certainly used store-bought broth in an emergency, Jim there IS a big difference between them. Do you ever do dinner at fine dining restaurants? You simply cannot replicate their sauces without the demi glace, etc. they prepare.

I really wish you'd stop trying to defend CI for everything. They're fine for what they are, but they are NOT anywhere near a fine dining experience.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 07, 2014 11:04 am 
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Agreed...

This might just be one of those times to "just listen"

http://vimeo.com/66753575

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 07, 2014 1:54 pm 
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Amy understands. There is no substitute for Bruce Naftaly's incredible veal stock. 10 pounds of split knuckles to 1 quart of perfection.

This kitchen sneaks in a second and third run.

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 Post subject: Re: Commercial Broth/Stocks
PostPosted: Fri Feb 07, 2014 3:29 pm 
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Tim,

I've got 10 lbs. of veal knuckles in the freezer waiting to be transformed into lusciousness. Next week...

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 07, 2014 4:48 pm 
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Same here, with 8 pounds of steer femur waiting to be roasted, simmered, skimmed and made ultra delectable this frosty weekend; ain't no comparison to any ready-made I've ever tasted :!: It's a great winter endeavor :!: :D


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 07, 2014 9:02 pm 
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I make homemade when I bones etc. for use in sauces but cut it half with storebought for chicken noodle soup. Mine has more mouthfeel but with 2 teens (technically 1 won't be a teen for 6 more days) I just would not be able to keep up. I noticed a huge diffference when I started making CI's tacos, chicken francese and chicken with sage & vermouth sauce with homemade versus the boxed stuff.
I don't make beef, not worth it for the little I use it for and the cost needed to make it. I did add veal bones once to my chicken stock and the gelatin added was unbelievable. Must make a trip back to that butcher to see if I can get more.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 07, 2014 10:45 pm 
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Da Bull Man wrote:
Agreed...

This might just be one of those times to "just listen"

http://vimeo.com/66753575


:lol:

I have to kinda agree...

I actually find that commercial chicken stock is just better in some things (and I say this as a devoted chicken broth maker, storer, and consumer who currently has no less than 6lbs of roasted carcasses and several quarts of stock in my freezer). I have not tried CI's ground beef trick, but I have no doubt that it works. If I am going to bother with anything other than Bovril though, I'll use the pressure cooker and then make sure to use it for something special, like French onion soup.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 07, 2014 10:49 pm 
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Amy wrote:

I really wish you'd stop trying to defend CI for everything. They're fine for what they are, but they are NOT anywhere near a fine dining experience.

Amy


In all fairness they are neither claiming to be nor trying to be. Nor are the home cooks who are their target audience.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 08, 2014 6:10 am 
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cmd2012 wrote:
Amy wrote:
I really wish you'd stop trying to defend CI for everything. They're fine for what they are, but they are NOT anywhere near a fine dining experience.
Amy
In all fairness they are neither claiming to be nor trying to be. Nor are the home cooks who are their target audience.

Agreed.

But I would never equate a stock made with commercial "stock," ground meat and gelatin as equivalent to a bone-based stock. I won't argue the shortcut, I just don't like when people espouse a shortcut that doesn't produce an identical or superior product as equivalent.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 08, 2014 8:38 am 
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Amy wrote:
I just don't like when people [Jim?, perhaps?] espouse a shortcut that doesn't produce an identical or superior product as equivalent.
Amy


If you believe that my post said THAT, you seriously misread my intent. I found your response demeaning, insulting, and downright mean. Is that what you intended?

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