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 Post subject: Re: pie shapes from the 17th C
PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2015 6:35 pm 
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I would like to meet the person who thought that up. A quirky mind for sure!


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PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2015 12:05 pm 
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Becky,

It's traditional; goes back to 18th century Cornwall, if not further back.

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I know. The nights are long and rainy in Cornwall, and thinking up wierd stuff to do with your food was possible even back before electricity. I would also like to meet whoever first though of cooking and eating an artichoke. To thank them.


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Speaking of strange, an English friend of ours sorely missed his mother's eel pie. Go figure.

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PostPosted: Sat May 16, 2015 11:33 am 
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Becky,

Here's the apocryphal version: supposedly eating artichokes was invented by starving peasants in Southern France/Northern Italy. Here's how it goes: local knights liked to have "practice" battles against each other, but didn't want anyone to get killed. So they armed peasants with "spears" made from artichoke (stalk + head), called them men-at-arms, and had at it. At the end of things, the crops would be all trampled by the horses, and all the peasants had was the artichokes they were armed with. So, out comes the stew pot.

The more likely historical version is that artichokes are just a variety of very large nettle. Nettles have been eaten, heavily boiled, as a source of vitamins in mountain winters around the world since the stone age. The Italians (Etruscans at that time, probably) had a particularly large and meaty version of nettle, which they "genetically engineered" the old-fashioned way to have huge, thick stalks ... the cardoon. Later (and this is recorded) other gourmets in France, Italy, etc. decided that they really liked the unbloomed flower of the cardoon and bred a second variety with smaller stalks and huge blossoms, the artichoke.

The apocryphal version makes a better story, of course, so feel free to repeat it over dinner. ;-)

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While I don't bake anymore, I think the bakers here (and especially The Fuzzy) should attempt a free-form, standup 'pie' in an appropriately bizarre, but structurally sound design - little fishies not required :roll: :lol: Photos required :!: :twisted:


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fitzie wrote:
Speaking of strange, an English friend of ours sorely missed his mother's eel pie. Go figure.

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Aaaaacchhhhh! Eel pie! That vision is seared into my brain forever.


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HEY! Howabout and eel-shaped pie with a delicious filling :lol: :!: :shock: :o :D


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I've made pies in some strange shapes for medieval dinners. The fillings tended towards pork and chicken.


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